Lyric's Chargeback

Last edited: May 27, 2025, 5:59 PM

Feb 2 to March 22, 2019

On March 6, 2019, I lied to PayPal, saying that an $800 donation was intended to be $8.00. I explained that there was a technical issue that led to this incident. I pointed to all the small donations I made at the time, and established that as a pattern for my spending. I also included that I contacted the recipient to try to resolve the issue.

Reflection

I understand now that I was put under financial pressure from Thor, both toward his Kickstarter and also to him directly (“Donate Your Savings”) these pressures would coerce me to make unreasonably large donations.

Feedback

Shaye would later claim:

Only Ferrets @RiverMakes
Replying to @Precision011 @Harkwit @LyricWulf @gremlinclaws
We were not contacted to discuss his interest in a charge back until early March. Speaking to Paypal representatives the case was not opened until march 6th. As an artist who has received chargebacks numerous times, and had to file a few of my own this is not how that works.
4/5/2019, 3:52:53 PM
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I do wonder why Shaye said this, considering I did contact them about the chargeback on February 2, 2019. I believe that Thor and Shaye just wanted to make sure that the perception of their side of the story was entirely unquestionable, to get as many people on their side as possible.

I believe that if I tried to reply to this at the time that I would have just been accused of falsifying emails.


Public References

Timeline of Transactions

    08/26/2018

    Donation

    Lyric made a donation of $800 USD to gopiratesoftware through a donation link listed on their Twitch channel. (Transaction 3FL860057N135114D)

    02/02/2019

    Refund request

    Lyric sent a message to Thor requesting a refund of the donation, under the pretense that “there seemed to be a technical issue at the time of the donation”

    03/22/2019

    Payment reversal

    The payment reversal process was completed, and Lyric was credited $792 USD. (Transaction 0K0466718P850823L)