Final Conversation

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At TwitchCon, Shaye mentioned that Thor had a “secret wife”. I confronted Thor about it.

Confronting Thor about Wife

Thor would immediate feign ignorance, claiming that they were “just fooling around and seeing if [they were] compatible”.

He would accuse Lyric as being the aggressor, saying that Lyric was pushing for commitment.

As far as I knew we were fooling around and seeing if were comptaible. You've been pushing a lot for a committment kind of thing but I have a lot of work stuff going on and not a lot of time.

This is in contrast to Thor’s Love Bombing and Thor in “No” Means Yes.

After I tell him that I heard he has a wife, he employs DARVO to disengage from the conversation, shifting the blame onto me and victimizing himself.

Sat, Oct 27, 2018
As far as I knew we were fooling around and seeing if were comptaible. You've been pushing a lot for a committment kind of thing but I have a lot of work stuff going on and not a lot of time.
and a wife
apparently
Is there a ring on my finger? lol
There's not.
I just heard about it.
That's all
Neat
I don't want to jump to conclusions so I
just wanted to talk i guess
I'm sorry. I don't mean to make it weird
Its a bit weird
It is...
I guess I just feel like I'm in an awkward place right now.
Nice, thanks for the giant awkward bomb

After I spoke with Shaye

Compared to just a few minutes past, after he discovers that I shared our conversations with Shaye, he now feels he can safely re-engage with the conversation now that he can shift the blame by victimizing himself.

Sat, Oct 27, 2018
I'm sorry
Nah dude you're not. Sending logs to Shaye?
what.
I don't know what you want
Please leave me alone.
You showed shaye logs of our conversations
And now hes talking to me about them.
Why that would ever be ok is beyond me
I have no words for you right now.
If you would have just told me what's going on
I would have been fine with it
Don't really care dude, nothing is even going on.
Look
When I showed shaye I had no idea how deep this ran
How deep this ran? lol
Definitely not discussing this with you

Annotated transcript

Lyric
I need to talk with you about something sometime
Maybe we could sit down and chat soon

Thor
what about?

Lyric
Mmm… The future.

Thor
Whaaaaat about?
[Disregarding boundaries. Thor dictates when and how conversation happens, not allowing Lyric to set the pace.]

Lyric
If like
I’m going to be in your future
pretty much
Honestly, I heard that you’ve got other stuff going on
I wanted to talk about that I guess…
I just wanna know what’s going on. Not like a conviction sort of way but I’m just a bit confused about our situation.
[Giving an out: providing Thor an opportunity to explain the situation of his other relations]

Thor
As far as I knew we were fooling around and seeing if were comptaible. You’ve been pushing a lot for a committment kind of thing but I have a lot of work stuff going on and not a lot of time.
[Denial, gaslighting: “commitment is your idea, not mine”, making Lyric question reality. Shifting blame to Lyric, deflecting attention from Thor’s own actions.]

Lyric
and a wife
apparently

Thor
Is there a ring on my finger? lol
[Mocking, denial, gaslighting: “since I have no ring you must be delusional, overreacting, or misunderstanding”.]

Lyric
There’s not.
I just heard about it.
That’s all

Thor
Neat
[Invalidating Lyric’s feelings, disengagement]

Lyric
I don’t want to jump to conclusions so I
just wanted to talk i guess
I’m sorry. I don’t mean to make it weird

Thor
Its a bit weird
[Shifting blame, mirroring, disengagement.]

Lyric
It is…
I guess I just feel like I’m in an awkward place right now.

Thor
Nice, thanks for the giant awkward bomb
[Shifting blame, mirroring, disengagement. He does this twice in a row.]

Lyric
I’m sorry

Thor
Nah dude you’re not. Sending logs to Shaye?
[Deflection of responsibility. Note that Thor has a lot to say about this, but not a lot to say on the above, as shown by his use of mirroring. Thor now feels he can safely re-engage with the conversation now that he can shift the blame.]

Lyric
what.
I don’t know what you want

Thor
Please leave me alone.
[Victimizing himself]
You showed shaye logs of our conversations
And now hes talking to me about them.
Why that would ever be ok is beyond me
[Gaslighting: making Lyric question reality, even if there were valid reasons such as seeking clarity]

Lyric
I have no words for you right now.
If you would have just told me what’s going on
I would have been fine with it

Thor
Don’t really care dude, nothing is even going on.
[Gaslighting: dismissing Lyric’s perception of reality]

Lyric
Look
When I showed shaye I had no idea how deep this ran

Thor
How deep this ran? lol
[Mocking, belittlement]
Definitely not discussing this with you
[Belittlement, dismissal of Lyric’s concerns]

Lyric
I’m sorry
I feel used.
That’s it
And you wouldn’t talk to me about it
Even though you’re self declared super straightforward